BBC-jev dokumentarac iz dva dela o genijalnim naucnicima, matematicarima i fizicarima, koji su otisli predaleko u svojim istrazivanjima, tj. opsesivno su pokusavali da dokazu teorije koje su bile ili nedokazive, ili su jednostavno uranili sa nekim revolucionarnim idejama i razmisljanjima pa to nije bilo prihvaceno od strane tadashnjih naucnih krugova, tako da su zbog tog drajva koji ih je gonio da nastave uprkos svemu, uprkos svima, po cenu bilo cega, na kraju dozivljavali nervne slomove, oboljevali od manichne depresije, shizofrenije, pa bi zavrsavali po ludnicama. Ono sto je posebno zanimljivo je da su cak i u tim bolnicama, koje su u to doba, krajem 19. i pocetkom 20. veka vise bile azili za izolaciju dushevno obolelih osoba, jer tada nit je bilo pravih lekova, nit je psihijatrija bila nesto posebno razvijena, nastavljali da se bavi tim svojim naucnim radovima sto bi ih na kraju vodilo pravo u samoubistvo. Meni je najzanimljiviji prvi slucaj Georg Cantora, velikog matematicara koji je od malih nogu u svojoj glavi cuo glas za koji je bio uveren da je bio glas Boga, a koji ga je nagovarao da se bavi matematikom, tako da se osecao predodredjenim, utripovao je da ima misiju od strane Boga da dokaze teoriju beskonacnosti, i naravno posto je to prakticno nedokazivo jer ljudski um jednostavno to ne moze da pojmi (barem ja tako mislim - ne drzite me za rec), to ga je odvelo u ludilo jer i pored silnih neuspeha imao je trip da ne sme da odustane jer je Bog licno bas njega izabrao za tu svetu misiju, tako da je doziveo nervni slom, dopao institucije za mentalno zdravlje gde su mu dijagnostikovali manichnu depresiju i na kraju izvrisio samoubistvo. E sad, ono sto nema u ovom filmu a sto je meni prvo zapalo za oko kao laiku koga izuzetno zanima ta tematika, jer sam svojevremeno imao prilike da kroz intezivno druzenje sa ljudima koji boluju od raznih oblika shizofrenije, donekle shvatim kako te halucinacije zapravo funkcionishu, a posebno te slushne halucinacije, i meni se odma' javilo da ako je taj genijalni matematicar od malih nogu slusao taj glas tog navodnog Boga da je on u startu imao predispozicije za mentalnu bolest, ali posto je bio genije njemu je taj glas (a zapravo halucinacija) posluzio za neke pozitivne stvari u zivotu, ali npr. ti glasovi mogu da igraju i jako zajebanu ulogu, jer vecina tih halucinacija u principu izazivaju negativne emocije, pa tako glasovi mogu da te psuju, da te prozivaju, jer setimo se, jedan takav glas je uticao na Davida Berkovica da pocini seriju ubistava po Njujorku 1977. godine, takav glas moze da bude i glas pokojne majke u slucaju Ed Geina , ali moze da bude i direktno od Boga ili cak Sotone, ali opet ne moraju obavezno te slushne halucinacije da navode na neko zlo, u velikoj vecini slucajeva su samo naporne, smarajuce, jer ometaju choveka od svakodnevnih aktivnosti, jer ako ti neko non stop drobi nesto u glavi ti ne moz' da koncentrises svoje misli kako ti 'oces. Tako sam jedared upoznao choveka srednjih godina koji je bio ubedjen da ima ugradjen pejdzer u predelu stomaka, i da ga preko tog pejdzera bivsi kolega sa posla proziva za neke skroz nebitne stvari iz proslosti, i dzaba sto sam ga ja naivno uporno ubedjivao da to nije realno, da je to samo plod bolesti i da ce ti glasovi nestati kada pochne da pije odredjenu terapiju, dzaba, on je bio ubedjen da je to istina i tu nema boga. Ma bre ni psijihatri, ni vrhunski strucnjaci, nisu uspeli da ga ubede u suprotno, a ne ja koji sam hteo gistro drugarski da pomognem choveku jer sam osecao tu empatiju i poistovecivo se sa njegovim mukama. Znaci ni dan danas ta psihijatrija nije bas daleko dogurala, sve se to u principu zavrsava na prepisanoj gomili lekova, za koje ni sami pishijatri nisu bas najsigurniji kako zapravo deluju, jer sticajem okolnosti imao sam prilike da razgovaram i sa nizom vrhunskih psihijatara, i oni iskreniji bi mi rekli da je ljudski mozak i psiha uopste skroz bre jedna neistrazena teritorija. Oni mogu samo da predpostave kako npr. taj serotonin, dopamin i ostali neurotransmiteri deluju na nervne celije u mozgu, i to samo preko reakcije pacijenta na odredjeni lek ili preko krvi. E sad, nisu ni oni ljudi krivi sto je to tako, jednostavno sto se tice psihijatrije nauka nije uznapredovala do tog nivoa da moze tacno, sa sigurnoscu da se kaze : to je ta i ta dijagnoza i leci se tako i tako, nego su prinudjeni da nagadjaju, da eksperimentishu, da cesto menjaju terapije pacijentima, jer na neku osobu odredjeni lek deluje kako treba, na drugu isto deluje al' ne u zeljenom pravcu, a na trecu uopste ne deluje a navodno sve tri osobe boluju od iste bolesti. Znaci jaaako zajebana igra. Al' vratimo se dokumentarcu, jer moje spekulacije nigde pametno ne mogu da nas odvedu. Uglavnom jako zanimljiva pricha, a sve ostale neophodne informacije imate dole na engleskom, ja sam reko sta sam imo. Blazeni su oni koji zive u neznanju. (90 min)
In this one-off documentary, David Malone looks at four brilliant mathematicians - Georg Cantor, Ludwig Boltzmann, Kurt G�del and Alan Turing - whose genius has profoundly affected us, but which tragically drove them insane and eventually led to them all committing suicide. The film also talks to the latest in the line of thinkers who have continued to pursue the question of whether there are things that mathematics and the human mind cannot know. They include Greg Chaitin, mathematician at the IBM TJ Watson Research Center, New York, and Roger Penrose. Dangerous Knowledge tackles some of the profound questions about the true nature of reality that mathematical thinkers are still trying to answer today.
Part 1: God's messenger
The film begins with Georg Cantor, the great mathematician whose work proved to be the foundation for much of the 20th-century mathematics. He believed he was God's messenger and was eventually driven insane trying to prove his theories of infinity.
Ludwig Boltzmann's struggle to prove the existence of atoms and probability eventually drove him to suicide.
Part 2: The Enigma
Kurt Gödel, the introverted confidant of Einstein, proved that there would always be problems which were outside human logic. His life ended in a sanatorium where he starved himself to death.
Finally, Alan Turing, the great Bletchley Park code breaker, father of computer science and homosexual, died trying to prove that some things are fundamentally unprovable.
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http://rapidshare.com/files/60428392/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part6.rar
In this one-off documentary, David Malone looks at four brilliant mathematicians - Georg Cantor, Ludwig Boltzmann, Kurt G�del and Alan Turing - whose genius has profoundly affected us, but which tragically drove them insane and eventually led to them all committing suicide. The film also talks to the latest in the line of thinkers who have continued to pursue the question of whether there are things that mathematics and the human mind cannot know. They include Greg Chaitin, mathematician at the IBM TJ Watson Research Center, New York, and Roger Penrose. Dangerous Knowledge tackles some of the profound questions about the true nature of reality that mathematical thinkers are still trying to answer today.
Part 1: God's messenger
The film begins with Georg Cantor, the great mathematician whose work proved to be the foundation for much of the 20th-century mathematics. He believed he was God's messenger and was eventually driven insane trying to prove his theories of infinity.
Ludwig Boltzmann's struggle to prove the existence of atoms and probability eventually drove him to suicide.
Part 2: The Enigma
Kurt Gödel, the introverted confidant of Einstein, proved that there would always be problems which were outside human logic. His life ended in a sanatorium where he starved himself to death.
Finally, Alan Turing, the great Bletchley Park code breaker, father of computer science and homosexual, died trying to prove that some things are fundamentally unprovable.
PRIVJU :
DOWNLOAD :
http://rapidshare.com/files/60415319/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.1of2.2007.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60415992/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.1of2.2007.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60416704/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.1of2.2007.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60417508/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.1of2.2007.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60418349/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.1of2.2007.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60418805/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.1of2.2007.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60424566/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60425353/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60426230/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60427012/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60427862/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/60428392/BBC.Dangerous.Knowledge.2of2.2007.part6.rar
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